Cool Communication Strategies: Engaging with Fans

Cool Communication Strategies: Engaging with Fans

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Summer has arrived, and we’ll be using our fans to stay cool outside.

Engaging with Fans:

Did you know that wealthy women communicated with their fans?
Close your fan and touch your right cheek to say yes. No is touching the left cheek. Of course
that might create confusion. The man watching has to know left from right.
Hold your fan over your face if you want to get to know someone.
And if you want to be rid of someone, place your fan on the left ear.

Cool Communication:

This summer, as you use your fans, I want you to keep your cool.
Let no unwholesome word proceed from your mouth, but only such a word as is good for
edification according to the need of the moment, that it may give grace to those who hear. (Eph.
4:29 NAS)

Engage with fans and enjoy ‘cool’ communication by showing grace.

Echoing Footsteps: A Soldier Lost

Echoing Footsteps: A Soldier Lost

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On Memorial Day, we remember those who lost their lives defending our country. And today I want to remember Army Nurse Captain Jennifer Moreno.

Her Life:

She was remembered for her beautiful smile.  She was in Afghanistan and was deployed with a special ops team. They encountered a suicide bomber.  One of the men was hurt. When he fell to the ground crying, she rushed to his aid, imperiling her own life.

She stepped on a landmine and was killed.  Jennifer is an excellent example of selfless service to others.

Let me read to you.  “With humility of mind, let each of you regard one another as more important than himself. Do not merely look out for your own personal interest, but also for the interest of others.” Philippians 2

Remember:

Today we remember Captain Jennifer Moreno.

 

The Pancake Connection: Mixing Faith and Food

The Pancake Connection: Mixing Faith and Food

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Cynthia:

Today we’re going to talk about a grandmother who had an incredible impact on someone’s life.  I have with me Carol Lethem, who is also an author. She reaches out to caregivers. Welcome, Carol.

Carole:

Thank you, Cynthia. I’m so happy to be here. I’m excited to tell you about my grandmother.

Cynthia:

Your grandmother was more of a mother to you than your mother, right?

Carole:

Yes, I had a very chaotic, crazy childhood. It’s like my life, my whole life has been chaotic.

Cynthia:

I know you well enough to believe that.

Carole:

I had a very chaotic, crazy childhood. Childhood. My grandmother, Lily, was the one constant.

Carole:

We didn’t live by her until I was in my early teens. But when I was a child, she was just this constant. And we would see her two or three times a year. And it was my favorite thing. Each one of us got to go and spend a week with her by ourselves. I cherished those memories so much. I could get away from the craziness and just be loved on.

Cynthia:

What did you learn from your grandmother?

Carole:

My grandmother gave me the love of two things.  One is the love for talking to Jesus and prayer. And she’s the first person I ever, ever, ever saw have a daily relationship with God, where she would sit and read his word.

Carole:

She would pray out loud and had a list of things she would pray for every day. The second thing she gave me a love for was pancakes. To this day, I cannot eat a pancake without thinking about my grandmother. Oddly enough that came from the same original experience. The love for talking to Jesus and the love for pancakes came from the same day.

Carole:

I was about five or six years old. I was spending my time with my grandmother, and I remember waking up one morning and coming down the stairs. As I came around the corner, there was a big, gigantic dining room table. My little tiny grandmother was sitting at the end of the dining room table with her cup of coffee, her Bible, and a notepad.

Carole:

And she had her head bowed. I waddled up. Five years. Six years old. I can’t remember exactly. But I can remember, her eyes were closed. I touched her arm and I said, “Grandma, Grandma, what are you doing?”

Carole:

She pulled me up onto her lap and said, “Okay, hush, hush, baby for a minute. I’m talking to God.”

Carole:

I just sat there in awe for a second as I listened to her go through her list with her eyes closed. I kept waiting for God to speak back because she said she was talking to God. When we got done, I said, “Do you do this every day?”

Carole:

She said, “Yes, I do.”

I said, “Does he ever talk back to you?”

She said, “I’ve never actually heard his voice. But he tells me on the inside.  I hear him on the inside. Someday you will too.  I’m done talking to Jesus this morning. I think it’s a pancake kind of morning, so let’s go into the kitchen and make pancakes.

Carole:

I remember we went into the kitchen and got out all the stuff. She let me stand on the stool next to her with my apron. We made pancakes. To this day, I associate talking to God and pancakes. Many times after I get done reading my scripture, I want a pancake.

Cynthia:

Kids will associate things our love with the things that we cook. That’s a really sweet story.

Carole:

Yeah. Yeah. And, and I remember watching her over the next few years. I would always sneak downstairs because I wanted to see if she was praying.  And she was.

Cynthia:

Yeah. Sweet. What advice would you give to someone with this Mother’s Day coming up?

Carole:

As a grandmother, I would say, cherish those moments when you spend time with them. Understand that they’re growing and I’m not their parent.  That’s a hard one. Sometimes I want to be their parent, but I’m not. And then staying in touch and finding out what stage they’re at.

Give them the gift of time. Uninterrupted time. Turn the phone off. Be present in the moment and try to figure out what’s going on in their lives.  Ask questions.

Cynthia:

It’s good.  Thank you, Carol. You’re such a blessing and I’m so thankful you’re with us today.

Carole:

Thank you so much. Now I think I’m going to go have some pancakes.

Celebrating Mothers: Dr. Elliott Paid Tribute to Her Mother

Celebrating Mothers: Dr. Elliott Paid Tribute to Her Mother

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Cynthia:

We are celebrating mothers because it’s Mother’s Day. Think back, the very first mother was Eve. She was the mother of all living. How awesome to be able to give birth to the next generation. In our country right now, motherhood is not popular. You must do something else to validate yourself.

 

Doctor Sharon Elliot is my guest. She’s going to share a little bit about her mother.

Sharon:

Yeah. I couldn’t wait to talk about my mom. My mom met my dad when they were still in college. They weren’t in college together. He crashed her 21st birthday party with a friend. They were married 50 years before my dad passed. Several things I remember most about my mom. First, she was always into creative things. She was an elementary school teacher, so she would have papers she was grading or whatever she was doing for her kids on the dining room table.

Sharon:

When she came home from work, she cleaned off the dining room table and cooked dinner. We had dinner together every night as a family. Every night. As the youngest, she gave me the job of setting the table. I had to set a full table every night. We didn’t eat out of pots and pans. I had to take the food, put it in serving dishes, and put it on the table.

So, she always kept the family going with dinners at the table. Another thing, she taught me how to love my husband.

Sharon:

She loved my daddy, and she was there for what he wanted. The funny thing was, my mom said before she got married, she would never marry a teacher, a police officer, or a preacher. And she did it. When she married my dad, he wasn’t any of those things. He was working for the aircraft industry. They lived back in Maryland. Well, he went back to school and got his master’s. Then he started teaching.

Cynthia:

Oh, no.

Sharon:

Then when they moved to California, he got a job as a probation officer, and then he was called into the ministry. Oh, my goodness.

Cynthia:

She ended up with all three.

Sharon:

She ended up with all three. But he was the one man she loved. She hung in there and did what she needed to do as the wife of the man she married. I love that about her. Every Easter,  we had matching clothes because we made them. Mom taught us how to sew, and I sewed many of my clothes, like my prom dress. I also redesigned my wedding gown from her dress, and many other things.

Sharon:

We knew we were going to make our Easter outfits. But every year we were up almost all night, the night before Easter Sunday, finishing these outfits. We never looked ahead and got that done.

I just really appreciated my mom hanging in there with everything we did. She and my dad were at everything. Even after we got out of high school, they would come to events.

Sharon:

Not just graduations from college, but anything if we were speaking at a church or singing in a choir somewhere. Mom and Dad were both 5ft tall. That was it. So here come these two toddling along to our events. They made a wonderful home for us. My mom had a sign in the house that said, “My house is clean enough to be healthy, dirty enough to be happy.”

Cynthia:

That’s nice. I like that.

Sharon:

We weren’t tied to the house. The house was pretty much a home base. My dad was involved in everything, of course. Once he was senior pastor of our church, and then she was still involved in all these kinds of groups. I’m pretty sure that I get my organization from both of them, but I know definitely from my mom. She was involved in all kinds of things, but we were never neglected. Never did anything come before us as kids. So, I learned how to be a good wife from my mom. I learned how to multitask, which wasn’t even a word then when mom was doing it.

Sharon:

I learned how to sew from my mom. When she was ill, she put a note on the desk beside her bed. We were to open that either on her hundredth birthday or when she passed. So the day, the morning that she passed, she was living with my sister at the time. And we went, my niece was caring for her that evening. And my shift was coming later that day, but she passed that early morning.

Sharon:

My niece called me. I went over there. When my brother and sister arrived, she was still asleep in bed. We went into the room and opened the letter. The first thing the letter said was, “If you’re opening this without me, you know what’s up.”

Yeah.  She had everything listed.

Sharon:

Okay. I’m a member of the Women in White group, and this lady is over it. They’re going to want to write a proclamation. So, here’s her number. Call her. And I’m a member of this. She had this all listed. She told us what dress we were to put on her. And at the end, she said, “Make sure they put a smile on my face.”

Cynthia:

Hmm.

Sharon:

That was in 2001. We have been able to have a smile on our faces and do what Mom said.

Cynthia:

Wow. She sounds like a wonderful woman.

Sharon:

Nancy Brown Jennings Norris.

Cynthia:

That’s so neat. And you have become just like her. You’re just an amazing person.

Sharon:

Thank you. Thank you. Thank you for allowing me to share about my mom.

Cynthia:

Thank you

Choosing Life: Rebuilding Life After Abortion

Choosing Life: Rebuilding Life After Abortion

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Cynthia:

During Bible times, certain people around Israel worshiped the God Moloch.  He had the head of a cow and extended arms. During worship, the people would heat him up until he was really, really hot with a fire.  And when it became very hot, they would place an infant in his arms.  And they would watch while the child burned.

Can you imagine that?  It’s a horrible picture and some scholars believe people might have been worshiping a demon at the time that they were doing this.

Obviously, it shows no value whatsoever for human life if someone is willing to watch their child being burned. But when you think of human sacrifice like this, I sometimes wonder if these children were sacrificed because they were the products of immorality.

Which was a natural outcome of sleeping around. So, today we’re going to be talking about moving forward after an abortion.

That was then, this is now, because there are lots of women who have done it and then have had lots of consequences after having done it.

I’m going to be talking to Camille Cates, and she’s been working in post abortion counseling for over 20 years. She had her own abortion as well.

Welcome, Camille.

Camille:

Hi, Cynthia. Thank you for having me.

Cynthia:

Okay, can you tell us your story as to why you even had an abortion?

Well, I grew up in the church. And heard about Jesus from the time I was little. Mom was a preschool teacher, the preschool director in our church. She was always talking about Bible stories, like using the flannel graph for those of us that remember those days.

And I just, I always thought that those people were really superheroes of the faith. But when we look in scripture, Cynthia, so many of them had their own struggles.  And choices and yet the Lord reached into their lives and shown himself and extended grace and mercy. We know that comes through Christ.

But I didn’t really come to know who Jesus was as my personal Lord and savior until I was about 12 years old at a youth camp. And I heard the gospel for the first time, and it really hit home that it was for me.  And so, I received Christ.  I have no doubt about that experience because there was a love and a gratitude for him for covering my sins.

I went home from that camp experience, there wasn’t a lot of discipleship after that with my parents.  I just kind of went back into living. I went through middle school watching relationships develop between guys and girls. And they got to high school and entered dating relationships on my own.

In that period of dating, I really began to become pressured for sexual activity.

Cynthia, I’ve worked with young people for over 20 years and  a lot of them are not being discipled at home. They’re just kind of trying to navigate relationships on their own. A lot of young women don’t really know what to do or are taught what to do, under that pressure.

I succumbed to the pressure to become sexually active. And then after that, I became pregnant.  And I remember being scared to tell my parents who were professing believers about my pregnancy. But my mom came to me, and she really shocked me when she asked me, “Camille, do you want to have an abortion?”

My parents were very involved in church. We were there a lot. I was really surprised.  I knew that I should not have been having sex outside of marriage, but I knew abortion was wrong. At the time I told her, I said, “Mom, I know I don’t want to have an abortion. This is my baby. I want to keep this baby.”

She said, “Well, we’ll support you.”

And they did very faithfully. My church was very supportive and loving. So just a few months after I graduated from high school, I had my daughter Lauren. My mom was really worried about me continuing my education.

They really pressured me to start college.

Two weeks after my daughter was born, I started college full time, and I worked two part time jobs and then living in their home with their support. I was doing okay. I’d gotten back into church. But I still didn’t have that discipleship or mentoring on relationships.

Cynthia, the Bible says that for lack of knowledge, my people perish. When we don’t have that knowledge, we kind of keep making the same choices. And that’s what I did. I ended up getting into another relationship. We became sexually active, and I became pregnant again very quickly.

We didn’t know quite what we would do. We talked about possibly having an abortion, possibly getting married and having the baby.  I actually became engaged. Then my parents found out about this pregnancy and the pressure to have an abortion continued.

There were a lot of doubts. How would that be fair to my daughter? We were young, but neither one of us had full time careers yet. We were trying to figure things out. So unfortunately, we never got to that decision together because something tragic happened.

I was working one of my part time jobs one night. My mom came up to my work and she said, “Camille, you must come to the hospital. Something happened to Lauren.”

I was upset, closed up shop, went to the hospital. And through the course of the evening, we found out that my boyfriend had sexually assaulted and shaken my daughter to death.

She was on life support. She had machines keeping her lungs going and her heart beating, but she was legally brain dead.  The doctors ended up turning off the machines and she was, she was gone.

We hadn’t even hit the parking lot at the hospital before my parents were saying, “Camille, you have to have an abortion now you can’t go through with this.”

I was really wrestling with the Lord.  God, I know this is wrong. I know I shouldn’t do this, but I I’m unique. I began to believe the lies about my situation and that it was unique. And God, please, if there’s any way, will you make this right?

I fooled myself into thinking abortion was the right course of action.

Four days after we buried my daughter, I ended up having an abortion. After that, my life just spiraled downward.

I was really drowning in depression and despair and, I felt so far from God. In God’s mercy, he reached into my heart a couple of years after the abortion and brought me back to himself.

He used a godly man in my life.  I’d grown up with him in church. He was headed into youth ministry. and just graduated seminary. He was looking for a, a church to serve in.

And he shared with me one night that he had feelings for me.  And I thought he does not know. We grew up together. He knows what happened with Lauren, but he doesn’t know about the abortion. He’s going into youth ministry, and he doesn’t need to be with a girl like me.

And I think he sensed my hesitation because he looked me in the eyes and he said, “Camille, I know about your abortion, and I love you anyway.”

It really shook me, and I didn’t know how to respond. I left. I said, “Okay, well, I’ve got to go.” And I left for the evening and on my way home, I just had an overwhelming sense of the gospel come to me afresh.

Here was this young youth pastor. He was a virgin and yet he wanted to be with somebody like me. And it really is a picture of the gospel that God is holy. He’s pure and perfect, but we’re all sinners. We’ve all fallen short, whether it’s an abortion or a little white lie or anything else. All of the sin sent Christ to the cross.

To know that he was holy, and he sent his son so that he could be with me anyway, because he loves me, that was that picture. And my life really changed its trajectory at that point. I ended up marrying that young man. We’ve been married now for 28 years and serving the Lord, faithfully sharing the hope and help that the gospel of Jesus Christ has to offer others.

Cynthia:

What kind of guilt feelings did you have afterwards?  How did you feel about what you had done? Did you see a baby after it was aborted?

Camille:

I think I had an uncommon. experience. I was about 10 to 11 weeks gestation at the time of my abortion. After the abortion experience, the nurse came to me and said, “Do you want to see your baby?”

And Cynthia still don’t know to this day why she asked that other than in God’s sovereign plan. He wanted me to see the life of my baby and what had been done. And so I saw this tiny little baby in this kind of Petri dish. The body was severed in two.

There are a lot of feelings that women experience after an abortion. Guilt is one of them. Shame. I think is another depression, a lot of grieving. Yet you can’t grieve this baby because you’re the one that took this baby’s life.

You have no right to grieve. Yet we should grieve what God grieves over and God grieves the loss of the life of an image bearer.  I was also. , wrapped up in a lot of grief from the traumatic experience that had happened before. And there’s really a misnomer in our culture. That the woman who has an abortion is a young promiscuous woman who’s had sex and she shouldn’t have.

And now she’s dealing with the consequences of that. And in my experience of counseling with women for over 20 years, that’s just simply not true. That happens. But it’s more of an exception than the rule. There are a lot of women who are married who maybe their husband’s committed adultery.

They’re pregnant. He wants to leave. He wants an abortion and pressures for that.  I worked with a woman. One time she had an abortion, or she was, engaged and her fiancé was killed in a car accident. She was pregnant with his baby, and she didn’t know what to do. She ended up having an abortion.

True guilt and shame come along with a sin choice. There are a lot of other complexities that surround that. And what cripples women and men who have participated in abortion and shame is fear and condemnation. Not knowing that God is merciful and loving and gracious and compassionate and kind.

And then he shows us that through the cross of Christ. He sent his son for that, for us to be healed to experience that biblical healing. So that’s what I share. When I share my story,

Cynthia:

I think back to the story of the people that were offering children to Molech. I just wonder if watching that, which would be even more graphic than seeing your baby cut in half, if they felt guilt or, or if they hated themselves for what they did.

Camille:

The Bible says that we loathe ourselves. for our idolatrous worship.  I think, not only the women, but the men, those men that fathered those children. It was the fathers that were the ones that were placing their children in the hands of the, the idol to be, to be burned for whatever gain, they thought that they would be getting.

God gave his one and only son as a sacrifice. The enemy’s real twisting that to somehow get us to believe that if we sacrifice our children, that we’re going to be prosperous.

That lie from the Old Testament carries over, I think, in abortion today, which is, what you’re hitting on. It’s a real redemptive view when we sit there and think about how God sacrificed  his one and only son for us. We don’t need to sacrifice our own children.

He is the provider. He’ll help us.

Cynthia:

So. If a person has had an abortion, who can they turn to? Who is a safe person?

Camille:

A good pastor who loves the Lord will be compassionate and gracious and listen and know where to point to in scripture.

A biblical counselor who is compassionate but will be able to speak the truth in love.

Share with a woman or a trusted Christian friend and, and don’t, don’t negate those, those good friends.

I remember the first time I ever shared with a friend about my abortion experience. I was terrified. I was shaking. I, I thought she’s going to think so many awful things about me. And. When I shared with her, she cried with me. And it actually, Cynthia, I found over the years, even though women haven’t experienced maybe an abortion, something about the pain, whether we have done it to ourselves, or it’s been done to us, really opens up, the ability for conversation, good conversation.

And in that sharing with my friend, she was able to share with me about abuse that she had experienced in her family for years. As a child. And so just that vulnerability and transparency can bring a lot of healing. I love James 5:16, because it says that we need to confess our sins one to another and pray for each other, that we might be healed for the prayer of a righteous person is powerful and effective.

Find somebody that you can trust. That’s a strong Christian.

Cynthia:

So, did it help to tell it to somebody?

Camille:

Once I was able to really process that with the Lord, I was working through a Bible study with another abortive woman and having the conversation with somebody who had walked in my shoes.

She had already gone through a lot of biblical passages that helped her that she could share with me and help me. And it kind of hits on that passage in first Corinthians. It talks about God being the God of all comfort and that we can comfort others with a comfort we ourselves have received first. So really working with her was very helpful.

Cynthia:

Did you worry about God punishing you?

Camille:

I did.

I think a lot of women and men sometimes have that fear of, I’ve taken the life of an image bearer of God.  Even as Christians and knowing that God forgave me for that sin, just thinking of the consequences in terms of punishment and not really understanding that in Christ, there is no condemnation. I feared that he would not let me become pregnant again.

If I did become pregnant, something might happen to that baby. And that just negates the truth that our punishment for sin fell upon Christ on the cross. And so Isaiah 53 says that he took on that punishment. for us. I think that really helps those who are struggling with believing that God is somehow going to cause retribution against them for their abortion.

That that’s not true.  That he loves us, that he wants restoration and healing for us.

Cynthia:

So, were you able to get pregnant?

Camille:

I was, I have a friend who aborted the only baby she ever conceived. And she, she was not able to become pregnant again.

We have two biological children. And then we have a little girl that we adopted from China. God even used my abortion experience to really put adoption on my heart. He restores. The Bible talks about restoring what the locusts have eaten, , and I really feel like he’s done that in my life.

Cynthia

What kind of feelings did you have to overcome in your heart?

Camille:

For me, it was a lot of anger and some of it was righteous anger.

I had been set up by my boyfriend. Then my parents and the pressure that they had really put on me.

And then there’s the abortion clinic staff. And so there can be a lot of anger when you reflect on that afterwards. I don’t excuse what I did and the sin that I made.

Cynthia:

Is there anything else you’d like to add?

Camille:

I just want to encourage those who are struggling with an abortion in their past that there is hope.  There is help and that Christ is waiting with open arms to, to take you in and, and walk with you.

You can find Camille here.

 

Bloom in Your Winter Season

Bloom in Your Winter Season

 

In this episode of Heart of the Matter Radio/Podcast, Author Deborah Malone discusses who to Bloom in Your Winter Season.

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Cynthia:

Queen Elizabeth II was a believer. And when she was a young girl, she promised the nation that she would work for them and be a faithful queen her entire life. She was very fond of Billy Graham, which really upset the Britons because he was an Anglican and she was supposed to be head of the Anglican church, but she was a true believer and she really wanted to give her life to the and she did the best she could her entire life.  There are people who believe that are close to the royal family that she actually died of myeloma, which is a bone disease and it causes a lot of pain in the bones and you start losing weight and you start being able to get around, which we saw that happening to her.  And then at the very end of her life, like the day before she died, she was welcoming in her new prime minister with a smile.

Of course, by that time, you could tell from looking at her that she had lost a lot of weight. And then the next morning she was dead. So she was an example of someone who, despite illness, was continuing to look out for other people and to be concerned for everyone else except herself. And what a good example.

Today I have with me  Debbie Malone and she has just put out a book that’s a compilation of people who describe how you can do the same thing that is to bloom in your winter season and that is the name of her book. So Debbie, welcome. Thank you.  Tell me what put this on your mind.

Deborah:

That’s an interesting question because I don’t know exactly the minute that it happened, but,  I do remember After my last Bible study that I was interested in doing another Bible study and a friend of mine and I came up with the idea of having a blog for women in their winter season.

And I think the book kind of morphed out of the idea for the blog.  And then the compilation. I am so excited about that. There’s 23 other authors, and it’s something that I had always wanted to do, and I was able to do it with this book. And so it’s like a dream come true. So I’ve really been excited about that.

But I just feel there’s such a need for women our age in their winter season that we’re not through. God has not stamped an expiration date on our forehead.

Cynthia:

That is very true for Queen Elizabeth. The second she was determined to keep going as long as she could and, , died very quickly, even though she was probably very ill.

What kind of things have you learned about aging well?

Deborah:

Well, I can’t say I’ve aged real well. I’ve probably come to the aging process,  fighting and kicking and  but I think I’ve gotten better. And, you know, I think that’s normal. I think that’s normal for us to, I remember looking in the mirror and thinking, wait a minute, that’s not my bum. I don’t have a bum.

We’re going to have changes. Our bodies are going to change. We’re going to have physical changes. So I think there’s a grieving period even for that loss of youth. But I have learned that there’s so many other things that you can do, that you can acclimate, that you can learn. To do it other ways and to do other things.

And I think that, and the fact that studying these women from the Bible, just for example, Anna and Miriam and Naomi, that  God uses us throughout our life, not just when we’re young.

Cynthia:

That is a really good point  you may feel like that at a certain point you’re through being a  mother. Or your husband passes away and you feel like , it’s all over with, but God continues to use us and he continues to work in your life.

And that’s a really good point that, he’s not done with you till he’s done with you.  We need to keep, keep going.  So how did you deal with perhaps some of the grief that you faced as you aged?

Deborah:

I have had a lot of changes physically.  I have a knee replacement.  I’m wearing glasses. I actually have hearing aids  and  all those changes,  cause emotions  to well up.,   there’s so many things I’d like to do.  But I’ve taken that. I have found other things to do with that grief and to fill that area of things that I can’t do. Just for instance, like using Zoom,. This is something that I’m doing a lot more of. I’m doing a lot of online things since I can’t study.

Even,  in our physical stages where there’s not a lot we can do, there’s things we can pray. Anna prayed and fasted.  We can send cards. We can have a card ministry. I have a friend that sends out text every day to her friends, and I look forward to that text. Just getting that little text, you know, it’s usually just a meme or something.

So I think that’s kind of how I dealt with it, just finding other things, other ways to live life.

Cynthia:

And with technology, there is so much more that we can do now than we could in the past.   I can have a zoom call with somebody in California, as well as somebody in New York or Pennsylvania all at the same time.

And I can be influencing people’s lives like we couldn’t do it in the past  traveling and all that. And you can, you can still do it

Deborah:

With my Bible studies, I’m taking them online. And it’s been wonderful because I can meet women from all over  the United States and international, you know, through my Bible studies.

Something that you couldn’t do if you were just doing a local Bible study.

Cynthia:

You couldn’t. And you can have prayer groups. I’m in a writer’s group that we do a regular prayer group together and encourage each other. And we’re all over the country and yet we are just as close as if we’re in the same town.

Yeah.  So that’s very encouraging.  God’s not done with you and, and so you need to keep living to the fullest as long as you can. What about the ministry of prayer?  What do you think? How do you think that can still continue?

Deborah:

One thing  that I’ve been doing lately that has really helped me and that is to journal my prayers and write out my prayers.

And that has just made a big difference in my prayer life.  And there’s so many people that need prayer.  And I think there’s such a ministry for it. And of course, you know, Anna always comes to mind when we think of prayer life. And how,  she prayed every day and fasted every day and I may not fast every day, but,  we, we can pray.

And  so I think it plays a big part in our life, especially when there’s other things that have been taken away from us that we can’t. do physically.  Prayer is always there.

Cynthia:

In my mother’s last illness, she used to tell me that she would wake up in the night and couldn’t go back to sleep. And so she would lie there and pray for me.

And that really meant a lot.

Do you have any other thoughts before we close?

Deborah:

Just keep on keeping on.  You know, I like, Babbie Mason is the one that I first heard say that, that God did not stamp an expiration date on her head, and of course I love Babbie, and all I have to do is look around and see the ladies that are in their winter season that are just dynamic. And of course we can’t all necessarily do that. We can’t all travel. And we can’t all be,  going around the country. But there are things we can do. And they are such an inspiration to us. And just remember that. There is no expiration date. And through the Bible, through this Bible study, we cover 12 women in their winter season that God used mightily.

Go look those women up. Go look some women up in the Bible and study them and see how that they were still used, even in their winter season.

Cynthia:

Yep. I like that because we need to keep going until the Lord takes us home. You can find Bloom in Your Winter Season on Amazon.

 

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